In the late 1980s, the loose-leaf, distinguished Openbaar Kunstbezit changed into Kunstschrift– and I was involved from the start. At the start, I was even in the editorial board. Although I had to remain within the margins of the classic, stylish art magazine, my freedom was great and effort I leaf through the old editions, I see how great the shift in my style and taste are. But apparently I can also cope with classic and durable. The present editor in chief Mariëtte Haveman asked me to design a recognisable and durable logo and the core of it is still used.